Report: Apple accused of NAND price manipulation

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Industry insiders tell The Korea Times the company orders more flash memory chips than it eventually buys. But just how uncommon is that practice? It’s not, an analyst tells CNET.
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Report Apple accused of NAND price manipulation by Jim Dalrymple Font size Print
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manipulating the price of NAND flash memory chips used in its popular iPhone and
iPod products according to a report in The Korea Times on Monday Citing unnamed
sources the article says Apple asks manufacturers to produce more chips than it
eventually buys from Samsung Electronics and Hynix Semiconductor The sources
said Apple waits for the price of the chips to fall before making its purchase
Credit Apple The practice of not buying all of the product originally ordered
semiconductor analyst Jim Handy told CNET is not uncommon in the industry Handy
of market research firm Objective Analysis explained that these contracts are
normally negotiated with a cancellation clause with provisions to protect the
supplier and buyer He said companies usually work closely with the buyers so
changes to orders are normally small and don’t cause many problems Supply and
demand in the NAND market are currently about even Handy said adding that with
the popularity of the iPhone and iPod he’s heard estimates that 20 percent to 30
percent of the worldwide NAND flash memory goes to Apple In its fiscal
fourth-quarter results the company reported selling 10_2 million iPods and 7_4
million iPhones for the three months ended September 26 Chipmakers Samsung
Electronics and Hynix Semiconductor declined to comment for The Korea Times as
did Apple’s Korean office Contacted by CNET representatives of Apple in the
United States also declined to comment for the story The iPhone sales numbers
continue to increase as does the number of applications available for the device
Apps are one reason the iPhone has become as popular as it is among so many
different categories of users in such a short time on the market Apple currently
has more than 100,000 apps available for download with users having downloaded
more than 2 billion apps as of November 4 Jim Dalrymple has followed Apple and
the Mac industry for the last 15 years first as part of MacCentral and then in
various positions at Macworld A guitar player for 20 years Jim also writes about
the professional audio market examining the best ways to write and record songs
on a Macintosh with Logic Pro and Pro Tools Jim is a member of the CNET Blog
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Log in or register 19 Comments prev 1 next by Perry_Clease December 1 2009 7:34
AM PST Might as well call the fire department Like this Reply to this comment by
Seaspray0 December 1 2009 2:25 PM PST For a story out of Korea I’ll wait and see
what comes of it Like this by EricJM001 December 1 2009 7:42 AM PST I find this
difficult to understand If Apple is using the manufacturers purchasing
agreements to some advantage then all they have to do is change the purchase
agreements Now if you competitor is willing work with Apple under such an
arrangement and you are not___welcome to the world of capitalism Not a moment
too soon might I add At worst Apple is taking advantage of the flash
manufacturers desire to do business with them This sounds more like whining than
a legitimate complaint Like this Reply to this comment by Stormspace December 1
2009 8:07 AM PST The laws governing this type of thing can be complex It’ll be
interesting how it shakes out but if Apple is manipulating the US or global
market somehow it won’t be good for them I’m unclear on the whole thing but it’s
certainly not negatively affecting the consumer since iPhone prices have been
coming down Like this Reply to this comment by iptofar December 1 2009 8:15 AM
PST Why is this a story It’s what every large buyer should do it’s up to the
vendors to protect themselves I don’t even think this is unethical much less
illegal Like this Reply to this comment by cloudmatt December 1 2009 8:35 AM PST
Nail on the head I can’t shake this feeling that comments would be vastly
different though if it said MS instead of Apple The title should read Free Troll
Food Like this by solitare_pax December 1 2009 9:41 AM PST Agreed a lot of
alligations but no confirmations Like this by adhetola December 1 2009 9:48 AM
PST cloudmatt +1 for you comments would have been totally different had anything
MSFT popped-up but i’d keep an open mind on this one as the article itself made
no mention of MSFT what I don’t understand is the last comment in the
article____totally off-topic Like this by cbscowards December 1 2009 8:51 AM PST
Ahh the industry insiders and unnamed sources But everyone refuses to comment
Like this Reply to this comment by winstein December 1 2009 8:55 AM PST Fooled
me once shame on you Fooled me twice shame on me Like this Reply to this comment
by MadLyb December 1 2009 9:03 AM PST Sorry but this is Supply Chain 101 You
forecast the need for X units but then you order X+n to deal with all the
surprises that can pop up If you are a a saavy negotiator and Apple usually is
you can build the n into the contract to be dropped if not needed Next we will
have a conspiracy theory about currency exchange or tax law utilization There
are lots of way to legally improve the bottom line and most companies make use
of all of them Like this Reply to this comment by adhetola December 1 2009 9:41
AM PST And what has Apple currently has more than 100,000 apps available for
download with users having downloaded more than 2 billion apps as of November 4
got to do with the title which reads Report Apple accused of NAND price
manipulation Perrhaps price manipulation number of apps Cmon now I expected
better writing Is it just me or is that simply off the topic Like this Reply to
this comment by EarthToApple December 1 2009 9:48 AM PST One of the worst
published pieces of trash I have ever browsed to shame on your Cnet for
publishing this tripe Like this Reply to this comment by lkrupp December 1 2009
10:13 AM PST Allegations innuendo rumors gossip Let’s see the proof please Until
then this article is just Cnet click that they are throwing a bone to the trolls
Like this Reply to this comment by mudphud December 1 2009 10:38 AM PST Sooo
Apple ordered a bunch of chips for one price had built into the contract they
didn’t have to buy them all the economy tanked and they didn’t need them so they
didn’t buy them Seems like they should have negotiated a penalty in there
somewhere but I guess they really wanted the business Like this Reply to this
comment by gggg sssss December 1 2009 5:02 PM PST So MS negotiates with vendors
to install Windows on all of their computers and that is monoplistic Like this
Reply to this comment by websterphreaky December 1 2009 7:32 PM PST Well if this
was Microsoft doing this all the CrApple-Tards would be screaming MONOPOLY OFF
WITH BILL GATES HEAD It’s just like the Anti America Lefties screaming about
Bush meanwhile they say nothing about Obummer stealing our Rights and Money_This
report is just one of hundreds reported over the last 20 years about CrApple’s
Monopolistic Shenanigans and Stock Options Fixing for Stevie Gods and his Exec
Goons yet all the CrApple Kool-Aid Drinker either ignore the evidence CrApple is
Corrupt a Big Bully and a bunch of Limousine Liberals or they make moronic lame
excuses like all the imbecilic postings above The Sheeps clothing is well off
the Wolf and you all are in the Fantasy Land of Denial Like this Reply to this
comment by websterphreaky December 1 2009 7:39 PM PST BTW I have to laugh that
Today when the DOW and Wal Street has set a new record high CrApple stock has
fallen -1_47% to well below $195 WHILE Microsoft is UP +2_04%_Bwah ha ha ha ha
ha Anyone notice that Dalypimple looks like a Taliban Warlord Someone pass the
king of Apple Hacks a Schick or Norelco Like this Reply to this comment by
EarthToApple December 2 2009 3:55 AM PST There is not one investor with New
Money that would ever be advised to place it in the trust of Microsoft for long
term growth Give your head a shake Like this 19 Comments prev 1 next Add a
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